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    Image of Monty Monty
    11/11/09

    In reply to PS3 Netflix Streaming to Require Those Discs for a Whole Year
    Who is the idiot who thought we would want to put in a disc to watch a movie? Absolute lunacy! This system should read my thoughts and automatically put on the movie I am dreaming of without me having to lift a fingernail. I tell you, Sony and Netflix have to get their mind reading technology together because this disc-movie watching technology is as much work as shaking a bottle of juice before drinking it. #ps3netflix
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    Image of dimsum4u dimsum4u
    11/11/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    So I would like to provide some insight to this bit of tech. Mark brings up a lot of good points. Would like to refute a few of them.

    Titles: Currently Paramount and Warner titles, the rest of the studio contracts are in the works. So it's not just any no name movie that couldnt hack it in the theatre =) Should check your notes on that one Mark.

    SD Cards: There are currently 100's of SD cards and as us techies know not one SD card is the same. The funny thing though is SDXC is coming out 2010, giving the ability to have up to 2TB on an SD card BUT of course thats not gonna happen anytime soon. BUT if you think about it a 32GB card which is the highest you can get right now COULD potentially fit 16 Movies since each movie is roughly 2.5GBs. Hey if your traveling and you are waiting 2 hrs before your international flight that is 14 hrs long and you have the ability to go to a kiosk and browse 1000's of titles and can download 3 movies to a 8GB card for $1.99 each u know thats better than watching the inflight movie that MOST likely was a movie that couldn't hack it in the theatre ie. Wolverine (Fail)

    Deleting Content: Yup who the hell would want to accidentally delete peoples photos or files. You have to give the software developers a little bit of credit that they don't want to screw someone over. So yes deleting content from the kiosk it will only detect the movie file and won't delete your other files.

    Current Model:Currently it's rental, price bounce around a bit they are trying a few different prices but entry is $1.99 for a movie that consumers have 30 days to watch once they watch they have 48 hrs before it expires. When it expires they don't need to go back to the store to return anything. Next time they go in the system will recognize that the SD card has expired content and will ask if you would like to delete the movie.

    Playback: SD Cards on movies, who the hell would want to do that? SD Cards are for pictures..duh...ya thats a pretty small box you are thinking in right now Mark. An SD card is a storage device just like USB stick, just like a portable external hard drive that we all have bit torrented movies on. You can put anything on an SD card, and if we take a look at all the hardware that is being developed right now, laptops, net books, PMP devices, Phones (micro-sd), TVs. They all are coming out with an SD slot. The iphone argument is very prominent everyone argues "hey i can download it on itunes, i've got an Iphone." the issue though is apple only holds a small percentage of the market. Comeon now you know better than that Mark. And the streaming arguement get that all the time, netflix, xbox360, bit torrent. Valid arguements, bandwidth def getting better but at the same time though, it's not as portable as and SD card. Sure you got wifi coming to airlines, but how soon will that actually be prevalent with all airlines? The other issue is, could airlines charge you an arm and a leg to stream movies? Since you are goign to take up a lot of bandwidth? Current playback is a single device, yup, 1 device a set top box that shows proof of concept to say to the OEM manufacturers and hardware manfacturers and software dev that hey you know what this is real. SD cards/Micro Sd cards can be used for something different. By 2010 PC playback App, and other devices will fall in to play. So yes we can look at this current tech and argue a lot and say HAHAHA this is a ridiculous idea, but is it really that ridiculous? SD cards are only getting better with SDXC coming out, and then you have USB 3.0 coming out that will enhance download speeds. Since a movie currently downloads 1gb : 1min with a specific card again going back to the card issue, but as we move forward cards get better they get cheaper in reality this proof of concept is following the tech and if you look at the bigger picture it actually makes a lot of sense.

    So Mark, great article, it's easy to say BB this is a ridiculous idea but we all know optical media is going to stick around for a long time and actual streaming of media isn't going to be prevalent for a while since we aren't Japan or Korea where broadband is a requirement. Not everyone streams movies every single day, and to get good speeds to download well you have to pay what $60/month? Most of the time it's just to surf the web, chit chat on our gchat how many people TRULY stream movies right now? So I would recommend taking a look at this one more time review the technology maybe ask a few more questions because it sounds like you asked the janitor that was cleaning the block office that over heard that bb might be trying somethnig new. I would expect better journalism than this from a Giz writer. =) #blockbuster
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    11/11/09

    @dimsum4u: Ah also forgot to talk about the UI. It doesn't sound like you took a look at the UI Mark. One pretty cool feature is just the ability to watch trailers of the movies. How many times have you walked through a movie store and said hmm...whats this movie about, read the back and all it says is WOOHOO GREAT MOVIE RENT ME. Watching a trailer is just a neat little feature.

    Again total technical trial, I'm pretty sure they are accepting all forms of constructive criticism boomingEchoes brings up a good point, if it's a little flawed doesn't mean they can't improve on the idea. Who would want a product that is flawed, thats a fail. Always want to make it better. #blockbuster
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    Image of Project_J187 Project_J187
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    You didn't mention that the SD cards have to be plugged into a proprietary box that is connected to your TV. Which means they didn't even think about using this for playing on phones, laptops and other devices while waiting at the airport. #blockbuster
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    Image of maven2k maven2k
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    Wow, 5 years ago this would've been ground breaking. Day late and a dollar short again BB. #blockbuster
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    For mini-SD and micro-SD users, all you'd need to do is make sure to pack one of those SD-sized card readers (assuming they _don't_ give you an SD card with this).

    For me, they'll need to overcome three hurdles before I'll start renting them:

    1. They need to include all of the bonus content that typically would be left out on rentals.
    2. They need to be actual DVDs.
    3. They need to be selling them instead of renting them. #blockbuster
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/10/09

    @Purple Dave: I would go to Blockbuster if they were selling DVDs instead and they carried hard-to-find movies. For sure. #blockbuster
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    Image of ddhboy ddhboy
    11/10/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Blockbuster does sell DVDs. Not like it matters since people these days are busy torrenting or watching it off of Netflix. #blockbuster
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/10/09

    @ddhboy: No. Their problem is that they're not competitively priced nor are they compelling buys. They are selling rented-out DVDs at the local Blockbusters that's going out of business for $9.99. I can buy new copies of most of the movies at the same price. They've always overcharged for DVDs that they sell. That's the problem. #blockbuster
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    Image of ddhboy ddhboy
    11/10/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: Then your going to the wrong blockbuster. My college is in the middle of nowhere and the blockbuster near there sell DVDs NEW on the day they are released and afterward.
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    Edited by ddhboy at 11/10/09 4:12 PM ddhboy was starred ddhboy was unstarred
    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    11/10/09

    @ddhboy: No. I didn't say Blockbuster didn't sell new DVDs. They just don't sell them cheap enough for me to go there. #blockbuster
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/11/09

    @ddhboy:
    Best Buy, Target, Walmart, and a host of smaller store chains would beg to differ. It's not that people aren't buying them because they're downloading them. It's that people aren't buying them _there_ because Blockbuster just isn't the place people think of when they want to go buy a movie or TV show on DVD. I don't know if their price structure is based on the fact that they'd rather have you pay them money for something that they can keep selling to the next dozen people who walk into the store, or if it's based on the fact that there's just not enough movement on that side of the business to make it worth adopting a more enticing price structure.

    What I do know is that mall-based stores are prone to charging full MSRP on everything, while the big retail chains tend to discount heavily off of that price point. I bought the first few seasons of Babylon 5 at Sam Goody because they were the only ones who stocked it. I stopped buying anything there once I could start knocking $20 off the price of a box set by shopping elsewhere. And within a couple years they closed up shop (I'm sure that was because Best Buy moved into town, and not because of the small amount of business they lost with me). #blockbuster
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    Image of AkkiRonin AkkiRonin
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    What a great place to release a virus into the wild.... a movie kiosk at an airport. #blockbuster
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    Image of fencesitter fencesitter
    11/10/09

    @AkkiRonin: He already said there there DRM on the card. #blockbuster
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    Image of AkkiRonin AkkiRonin
    11/10/09

    @fencesitter: What does DRM have to do with virus? #blockbuster
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    Image of dimsum4u dimsum4u
    11/11/09

    @AkkiRonin: DRm has nothing to do with viruses, but if you take a look at photo kiosks that have been around for years and just library computers that people use every day and have users plugging in usb sticks everyday I think we can consider that tech that blocks anything installing on the computer is out there and locking down the computer to avoid this would be thought of. Again just a possibility since there are a lot of boxes out there that are shared resources by 100's of people daily. #blockbuster
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    Image of szrimaging szrimaging
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    Umm....multi card readers aren't THAT expensive. Why not add in a multicard reader, and a USB drive so that I can use a thumbdrive?

    And doesn't the external ports like the sd card slot lead to greater risk of the machine being hacked? #blockbuster
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    Image of the_sidewinder the_sidewinder
    11/10/09

    @szrimaging: The reason for SD, and ONLY SD is because of it's native support for DRM, it enables uses like this where they want to keep it locked down #blockbuster
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    Image of met2art met2art
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    Digital rentals? P'shaw! The best part of the rental process was having the surly yet vapid clerk look at my rental choice as though I must be a lobotomy patient to have picked that movie. Oh, and being reminded that the movie has to be returned or there will be late fees... with the vaguely ominous tone that implies that I could be reponsible for some sort of apocalyptic result if I do not return this rare and coveted copy of Cocoon 2 on time. (Which is odd, because by the clerk's earlier expression, you'd think this movie wasn't very popular.)

    Can digital rentals do that?? #blockbuster
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    Image of dingus dingus
    11/10/09

    @met2art: Without brick 'n' mortar video rentals, our children will miss the humor in Clerks. Won't someone please think of the children? #blockbuster
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    Image of met2art met2art
    11/10/09

    @dingus: Dante Hicks: "Best of Both Worlds"?
    Randal Graves: Hermaphroditic porn. Starlets with both organs. You should see the box. Beautiful chicks with dicks that put mine to shame.
    Dante Hicks: And you rented this?
    Randal Graves: Hey, I like to expand my horizons.
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    Edited by met2art at 11/10/09 1:38 PM met2art was starred met2art was unstarred
    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    What is the copy time - how long do you have to stand in front of the machine? #blockbuster
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    Image of Skunky Skunky
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    My G1 takes a form of SD, it's not Blockbusters fault you picked the wrong phone to watch movies on......or for that matter the wrong type of device in general for watching movies on. #blockbuster
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    Image of HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H. HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    I haven't bought a MicroSD card yet that didn't come with an SD adapter. Some of them come with a MiniSD adapter too.

    I'd be more concerned about the DRM scheme they're using -- if I can't play it on my Myth box, there's no point.

    Also, they probably should provide this online as well as in kiosks, but I won't hold my breath for Blockbuster to get that idea. #blockbuster
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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    They shouldn't limit themselves to SD. The dock should also have jacks so you can connect USB, MiniUSB, Apple etc. So that any device can connect to it for you to download the rented movie. THAT, would be far more useful than just SD. #blockbuster
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/10/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: I doubt that Apple would ever cooperate with Blockbuster, considering that Apple has its own rental model. #blockbuster
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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    11/10/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: That doesn't mean Blockbuster can't have their own App that would allow users to connect to a kiosk to rent movies. They don't need Apple's permission. It's anti-trust. #blockbuster
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/10/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: No, but what I mean is that Apple would probably not allow Blockbuster to make a compatible expiry-encoded DRM movie file similar to the kind used in ITS. The only instances where I've seen compatible DRM files from third-parties outside of the iTunes store have been pay to own, not pay to rent. #blockbuster
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    Image of Noobs-R-Us Noobs-R-Us
    11/10/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: So you mean you don't think Blockbusters can make an app to do that? You mean Apple's commerical of "there's an app for that" isn't true? #blockbuster
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    Image of Win7autoCrash Win7autoCrash
    11/10/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: Apple would reject it, they reject google, you think they wont reject a failing movie rental company, hell blockbuster probably couldnt even afford the legal fight.

    They already "have an app for that"... Its called itunes. #blockbuster
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    11/10/09

    @Win7autoCrash: and that's where you're wrong. Apple is scared of the regulators at this point. They know that the FTC has its eyes set on any anti-competitive behavior. The FCC already stuck a microscope up Apple's butt for the Google rejection. #blockbuster
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    11/12/09

    @Noobs-R-Us: Sorry for the late reply I only get on here every other day...

    But no way would apple ever approve another movie rental app, itunes is its #1 app for making money, hell the app store resides inside of itunes.

    But then again they allowed pandora which I know is a lot different then Itunes, but it still plays music... #blockbuster
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    Actually, this might be an ok concept if they did away with the SD cards. Just have a kiosk with movies that you can sync with your smart phone, PMP or laptop. Of course, this would require some kind of USB-like (or wireless) standard synchronization method. It's not too hard to imagine that there would be something like this in the future. #blockbuster
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/10/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Orrr, put a RedBox-like device in airports. You know, with real DVDs. Rent it at one kiosk, take it on the plane, watch it, and when you land, return it at another. Or even have an envelope to mail it back, if the airport you land in doesn't have a kiosk.

    It's more cumbersome, but I can all but guarantee you, more folks are carrying around DVD drives than folks with extra SD cards.

    It would cost a bit more, too, but hey they can afford it. Think of all the money they're saving from closing all those stores! .....wait.. #blockbuster
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    I'm just thinking realistically. My netbook always has a SD card in the slot so that it doesn't accumulate crud...it's handy enough. I can't stream Netflix while I'm in the air (not realistically, anyway), and grabbing a movie when my plane is delayed isn't an awful idea. I haven't used Blockbuster in ages...a couple of years, at least, but I have to say that with better marketing, this idea would have some legs. #blockbuster
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    11/10/09

    In reply to Hahahaha! Blockbuster Renting Movies on SD Cards! Hahahahaha! From Kiosks!
    You're looking at this the wrong way. This will be the turning point for SD cards! Soon the strong demand for rented Blockbuster digital content will drive demand for SD cards through the roof. Soon, every woman, man and child will carry one at all times. We will be able to implant them into our pets to store personal information. It's the future, I'm telling you. #blockbuster
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